app01 Mon, 09 Nov 2026 05:22:25 +0000 Fireside (https://fireside.fm) Between Sundays - Episodes Tagged with “Pastorlife” https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/tags/pastorlife Tue, 20 Oct 2026 10:00:00 -0400 Join Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for candid, transparent conversations about life in ministry. This is more than sermons and church services—it's the real work of pastoring, the challenges and triumphs, the heart and soul of ministry that happens between Sundays. en-us episodic Offstage Conversations About Real Life and Ministry Church of God Join Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for candid, transparent conversations about life in ministry. This is more than sermons and church services—it's the real work of pastoring, the challenges and triumphs, the heart and soul of ministry that happens between Sundays. no Church of God cguyton@gmail.com Episode 29: Preaching Jesus in a Politically Divided World https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/29 da4b7b23-9fa4-439f-ba66-fb039d5aa25f Tue, 20 Oct 2026 10:00:00 -0400 Church of God full Church of God n each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 29:35 no <p>How can pastors address a divided culture while keeping Jesus at the center? Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper discuss faith, politics, viral sermons, and the pressures facing today’s pastors. An honest conversation about protecting the church’s prophetic voice, praying for leaders, and staying faithful to the gospel.</p> <p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&amp;si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a></p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God How can pastors address a divided culture while keeping Jesus at the center? Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper discuss faith, politics, viral sermons, and the pressures facing today’s pastors. An honest conversation about protecting the church’s prophetic voice, praying for leaders, and staying faithful to the gospel.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE

]]> How can pastors address a divided culture while keeping Jesus at the center? Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper discuss faith, politics, viral sermons, and the pressures facing today’s pastors. An honest conversation about protecting the church’s prophetic voice, praying for leaders, and staying faithful to the gospel.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE

]]> Episode 28: When you're tired OF it, It's time to get away FROM it! https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/28 73d7a18d-bbae-43a5-a085-75be5575845c Tue, 22 Sep 2026 11:45:00 -0400 Church of God full Church of God In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 31:58 no <p>Pastor Brian Rabon of Hope Chapel joins Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for an honest conversation about church planting, longevity in ministry, and the importance of rest.</p> <p>After more than 20 years of pastoring, Brian shares lessons from starting a church with just eight people to reaching a point where he knew something had to change. He discusses how a sabbatical helped him rediscover Sabbath and a healthier rhythm for ministry and family.</p> <p>From recognizing when you're more than just tired to trusting God when He calls you to step out, this episode is an encouraging conversation about staying focused on the calling God has given you.</p> <p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&amp;si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a>.</p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God Pastor Brian Rabon of Hope Chapel joins Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for an honest conversation about church planting, longevity in ministry, and the importance of rest.

After more than 20 years of pastoring, Brian shares lessons from starting a church with just eight people to reaching a point where he knew something had to change. He discusses how a sabbatical helped him rediscover Sabbath and a healthier rhythm for ministry and family.

From recognizing when you're more than just tired to trusting God when He calls you to step out, this episode is an encouraging conversation about staying focused on the calling God has given you.

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]]> Pastor Brian Rabon of Hope Chapel joins Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for an honest conversation about church planting, longevity in ministry, and the importance of rest.

After more than 20 years of pastoring, Brian shares lessons from starting a church with just eight people to reaching a point where he knew something had to change. He discusses how a sabbatical helped him rediscover Sabbath and a healthier rhythm for ministry and family.

From recognizing when you're more than just tired to trusting God when He calls you to step out, this episode is an encouraging conversation about staying focused on the calling God has given you.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> Episode 27: It's Not Your Church | What Every Pastor Needs to Hear https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/27 c1ea41aa-1588-4037-abb6-2b352351ce8e Tue, 08 Sep 2026 10:45:00 -0400 Church of God full Church of God In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 58:01 no <p>What does faithful ministry look like across generations?</p> <p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with longtime pastor and ministry leader Bobby Gilley and his grandson, Pastor Adrian Franklin of South Gastonia Church of God.</p> <p>After nearly 30 years of pastoring the same congregation, Reverend Bobby shares lessons learned through decades of ministry, including the moment God reminded him that the church wasn't his "wagon to pull." His assignment was much simpler: preach, pray, and love, and trust God with the rest.</p> <p>Pastor Adrian shares what it has been like to follow his grandfather as pastor, honor the legacy of previous generations, find his own pastoral voice, and lead a multigenerational church into the future.</p> <p>The conversation also explores the loneliness of leadership, building trust through longevity and love, resisting comparison, persevering when ministry gets difficult, and staying faithful to God's calling.</p> <p>Whether you're beginning your ministry or have served for decades, this episode is a powerful reminder: the church belongs to God. Be faithful with what He's placed in your hands and trust Him with the results.</p> <p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&amp;si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a>.</p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God What does faithful ministry look like across generations?

In this episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with longtime pastor and ministry leader Bobby Gilley and his grandson, Pastor Adrian Franklin of South Gastonia Church of God.

After nearly 30 years of pastoring the same congregation, Reverend Bobby shares lessons learned through decades of ministry, including the moment God reminded him that the church wasn't his "wagon to pull." His assignment was much simpler: preach, pray, and love, and trust God with the rest.

Pastor Adrian shares what it has been like to follow his grandfather as pastor, honor the legacy of previous generations, find his own pastoral voice, and lead a multigenerational church into the future.

The conversation also explores the loneliness of leadership, building trust through longevity and love, resisting comparison, persevering when ministry gets difficult, and staying faithful to God's calling.

Whether you're beginning your ministry or have served for decades, this episode is a powerful reminder: the church belongs to God. Be faithful with what He's placed in your hands and trust Him with the results.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> What does faithful ministry look like across generations?

In this episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with longtime pastor and ministry leader Bobby Gilley and his grandson, Pastor Adrian Franklin of South Gastonia Church of God.

After nearly 30 years of pastoring the same congregation, Reverend Bobby shares lessons learned through decades of ministry, including the moment God reminded him that the church wasn't his "wagon to pull." His assignment was much simpler: preach, pray, and love, and trust God with the rest.

Pastor Adrian shares what it has been like to follow his grandfather as pastor, honor the legacy of previous generations, find his own pastoral voice, and lead a multigenerational church into the future.

The conversation also explores the loneliness of leadership, building trust through longevity and love, resisting comparison, persevering when ministry gets difficult, and staying faithful to God's calling.

Whether you're beginning your ministry or have served for decades, this episode is a powerful reminder: the church belongs to God. Be faithful with what He's placed in your hands and trust Him with the results.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> Episode 26: Trusting God Through Tragedy https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/26 9c1067ed-2f04-42c9-a281-392914c52d5e Fri, 28 Aug 2026 08:30:00 -0400 Church of God full Church of God In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 1:04:49 no <p>Evangelists Mike and Jimille Mills join Between Sundays for a powerful conversation about missions, loss, and the faithfulness of God.</p> <p>They share the story of their son, Mikey, who rededicated his life to Christ while serving alongside his father on a mission trip to Ecuador. What followed was a remarkable transformation as Mikey began sharing his faith and reaching people who had little or no connection to the church. His desire to reach others was captured in one simple request: “Can we do just one more?”</p> <p>Months later, Mikey was tragically killed in a car accident. As Mike and Jamil walked through unimaginable grief, they began discovering just how many lives their son had quietly impacted, and how his testimony continues to point people toward Jesus.</p> <p>Learn more about the Mills Family Ministries <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MillsFamilyMinistries/" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a></p> <p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&amp;si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a>.</p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God Evangelists Mike and Jimille Mills join Between Sundays for a powerful conversation about missions, loss, and the faithfulness of God.

They share the story of their son, Mikey, who rededicated his life to Christ while serving alongside his father on a mission trip to Ecuador. What followed was a remarkable transformation as Mikey began sharing his faith and reaching people who had little or no connection to the church. His desire to reach others was captured in one simple request: “Can we do just one more?”

Months later, Mikey was tragically killed in a car accident. As Mike and Jamil walked through unimaginable grief, they began discovering just how many lives their son had quietly impacted, and how his testimony continues to point people toward Jesus.

Learn more about the Mills Family Ministries HERE

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> Evangelists Mike and Jimille Mills join Between Sundays for a powerful conversation about missions, loss, and the faithfulness of God.

They share the story of their son, Mikey, who rededicated his life to Christ while serving alongside his father on a mission trip to Ecuador. What followed was a remarkable transformation as Mikey began sharing his faith and reaching people who had little or no connection to the church. His desire to reach others was captured in one simple request: “Can we do just one more?”

Months later, Mikey was tragically killed in a car accident. As Mike and Jamil walked through unimaginable grief, they began discovering just how many lives their son had quietly impacted, and how his testimony continues to point people toward Jesus.

Learn more about the Mills Family Ministries HERE

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> Episode 24: When Failure Isn't the Final Chapter https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/24 299fb0b8-fd66-4d6a-a36b-58d3caf8d001 Sat, 20 Jun 2026 11:00:00 -0400 Church of God full Church of God In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 44:06 no <p>What happens when a pastor experiences devastating failure, walks away from ministry, and believes his calling is over?</p> <p>In this deeply personal episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with Pastor Chad Smith of The Pointe Church in Toccoa, Georgia. What begins as a conversation about church growth and pastoral succession quickly becomes a remarkable testimony of God's relentless grace and restoring power.</p> <p>Pastor Chad shares the story of a moral failure that led him out of ministry, nearly destroyed his marriage, and left him convinced that God could never use him again. But through the faithfulness of his wife, the prayers of his daughter, and the mercy of God, a new chapter began.</p> <p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&amp;si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a>.</p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God What happens when a pastor experiences devastating failure, walks away from ministry, and believes his calling is over?

In this deeply personal episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with Pastor Chad Smith of The Pointe Church in Toccoa, Georgia. What begins as a conversation about church growth and pastoral succession quickly becomes a remarkable testimony of God's relentless grace and restoring power.

Pastor Chad shares the story of a moral failure that led him out of ministry, nearly destroyed his marriage, and left him convinced that God could never use him again. But through the faithfulness of his wife, the prayers of his daughter, and the mercy of God, a new chapter began.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> What happens when a pastor experiences devastating failure, walks away from ministry, and believes his calling is over?

In this deeply personal episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper sit down with Pastor Chad Smith of The Pointe Church in Toccoa, Georgia. What begins as a conversation about church growth and pastoral succession quickly becomes a remarkable testimony of God's relentless grace and restoring power.

Pastor Chad shares the story of a moral failure that led him out of ministry, nearly destroyed his marriage, and left him convinced that God could never use him again. But through the faithfulness of his wife, the prayers of his daughter, and the mercy of God, a new chapter began.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of the Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> Episode 16: The Season You’re In: How Ministry Families Survive (and Thrive) https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/16 e9c53424-9903-45d1-a6f4-af640ef18f41 Thu, 08 Jan 2026 11:30:00 -0500 Church of God full Church of God In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 54:21 no <p>In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.</p> <p>Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life. </p> <p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&amp;si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a>.</p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.

Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.

Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life.

Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast HERE.

]]> Episode 7: LIVE from Baltimore: Heartbreak and Hope Dealers https://betweensundays.fireside.fm/7 fce99505-23e1-44a7-a1be-28dce0f35812 Fri, 13 Jun 2025 10:00:00 -0400 Church of God full Church of God In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling. 1:03:34 no <p>On this special Between Sundays episode, we’re live from We Gather Pastors Weekend in Baltimore Maryland.</p> <p>Gary, Loran, Mark, and David discuss a wide number of topics, including:</p> <p>Surviving burnout in ministry<br> Navigating pain at home while leading<br> Long-term pastoral health &amp; boundaries<br> Loving your city back to life</p> <p>Plus, an incredible story from Pastor Billy Humphrey, founder of City of Refuge Baltimore, who went from poverty to purpose — and is now transforming his neighborhood with the hope of Jesus. </p> <p>Learn More about City of Refuge Baltimore <a href="https://www.cityofrefugebaltimore.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">HERE</a></p> Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God On this special Between Sundays episode, we’re live from We Gather Pastors Weekend in Baltimore Maryland.

Gary, Loran, Mark, and David discuss a wide number of topics, including:

Surviving burnout in ministry
Navigating pain at home while leading
Long-term pastoral health & boundaries
Loving your city back to life

Plus, an incredible story from Pastor Billy Humphrey, founder of City of Refuge Baltimore, who went from poverty to purpose — and is now transforming his neighborhood with the hope of Jesus.

Learn More about City of Refuge Baltimore HERE

]]> On this special Between Sundays episode, we’re live from We Gather Pastors Weekend in Baltimore Maryland.

Gary, Loran, Mark, and David discuss a wide number of topics, including:

Surviving burnout in ministry
Navigating pain at home while leading
Long-term pastoral health & boundaries
Loving your city back to life

Plus, an incredible story from Pastor Billy Humphrey, founder of City of Refuge Baltimore, who went from poverty to purpose — and is now transforming his neighborhood with the hope of Jesus.

Learn More about City of Refuge Baltimore HERE

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