Between Sundays
Offstage Conversations About Real Life and Ministry
About the show
Join Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for candid, transparent conversations about life in ministry. This is more than sermons and church services—it's the real work of pastoring, the challenges and triumphs, the heart and soul of ministry that happens between Sundays.
Episodes
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Episode 23: The Church is NOT the Building
June 1st, 2026 | 1 hr 10 mins
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 22: Lee University, Revival, and the Next Generation
May 8th, 2026 | 53 mins 48 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 21: When Ministry, Family, and Real Life Collide
April 27th, 2026 | 46 mins 40 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 20: Your Future is Bigger Than Your Yesterday
March 20th, 2026 | 48 mins 12 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 19: When Culture and the Gospel Collide
March 4th, 2026 | 44 mins 5 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 18: The Church is in a Discipleship Crisis
February 13th, 2026 | 53 mins 53 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 17: Your Church is Anxious | Here's What they Really Need
January 30th, 2026 | 58 mins 21 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 16: The Season You’re In: How Ministry Families Survive (and Thrive)
January 8th, 2026 | 54 mins 21 secs
calling, churchofgod, cityofrefuge, hopedealer, legacy, ministry, ministrymatters, pastorlife, pentecostal, podcastdrop, preaching, teaching, urbanministry, wegather2025
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 15: Preaching Truth in a Feel-Good World
November 10th, 2025 | 41 mins 10 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 14: Obedience Over Opportunity.
October 17th, 2025 | 58 mins 38 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 13: LIVE FROM OHIO: The One Thing Culture Can't Cancel: Truth
October 3rd, 2025 | 1 hr 12 mins
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 12: Why Your Church Might Be Spiritually Malnourished
September 9th, 2025 | 52 mins 10 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 11: You Can't Do It All (and Shouldn't Try!)
August 22nd, 2025 | 36 mins 42 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 10: Truth that Transcends Culture
August 1st, 2025 | 51 mins 36 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 9: Cut the Grass: The Power of Small Things in Ministry
July 12th, 2025 | 56 mins 42 secs
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.
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Episode 8: The Table is the Pulpit. Planting a Church Where You are with What you Have.
June 27th, 2025 | 48 mins
calling, legacy, ministry, pentecostal, preaching, teaching
In each episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper engage in honest conversations about the challenges and triumphs of ministry. They share wisdom, personal stories, and encouragement for pastors navigating their calling.